It's good stuff. No evidence of failure, just a claim that they *have* found it "black" at 30k and recommend a 15k service interval. You know, I got so tired of this discussion I dropped the pan on my Tundra's A760, cleaned it out, put in a new filter, and filled it back up with MaxLife red bottle in June @80k miles. Toyota WS ATF is good stuff for those vehicles that require it. Hmmm, if I wanted to keep tranny whining at bay, I'd be thinking of swapping out the AT fluid. Then ill do 2 more drain and fills. For the Prius, you do a drain/fill. Interesting article on how Multi-vehicle ATF products "aren't". JavaScript is disabled. Valvoline vs. Amsoil have fans of each debating which of their two uncertified ATFs is 'safe' for a Toyota WS application. :) also it synthetic fluid. How about Toyota uses a quality synthetic fluid that doesn't darken easily like other OE fluids and that actually promotes excellent shift quality like non-OE fluids do and folks would use OEM fluid instead. You are free to call Castrol yourself like I did, and you can get the same answer I did. Valvoline Maxlife ATF DIY / Maintenance / Service. rav4world.com is not in any way affiliated with Toyota Motor Company. Valvoline MaxLife is 100% Full Synthetic ATF- & Will work just fine, instead of Toyota 'not synthetic' WS As long as you don't fall into the "synthetic is always better" trap. Castrol mentioned JWS 3324 to me first, I did not volunteer any spec # at all to Castrol, asked them to name the OEM certification they have for the product and who provided the OEM certification. Joined: Jan 3, 2009 Member: #12191 Messages: 60 Gender: Male First Name: David Flagstaff, AZ Vehicle: '09 TRD Off-Road DC Custom Perforated Stainless Satoshi Grill, 3" Toytech … Glad I did that flush since this must have been the first fluid change judging from the color. You are using an out of date browser. Been reading way too many forum posts on Toyota WS ATF Fluid versus the Valvoline Maxlife ATF fluid. ", Aisin TB-50LS — 5-speed longitudinal (Suzuki Grand Vitara 3.2 V6 5-door, Isuzu MU-X 2.5), also known as Toyota A750F. Developed to help prevent leaks, maximize transmission performance, reduce transmission wear, and maintain smooth shifting longer than conventional fluids. Valvoline Maxlife VS Toyota WS. Thread starter Bandito440; Start date Aug 1, 2012; Prev. How much ATF did you end up using? Do not do a full flush! Loading... Unsubscribe from repairvehicle? Toyota WS Volvo 1161521, 1161540, STD 1273.41, 97340 VW TL52162, LT71141 ZF TE -ML 14B, 16L, 17C ZF Lifeguardfluid 8 *Please note that legislation in California prohibits Valvoline from recommending MaxLife™ ATF in certain applications where the viscometrics of MaxLife™ ATF do not match those of the official OEM specification. Everyone still happy with their Maxlife in their WS application? Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by dewriffic16, Jul 8, 2014. No problems? I'm against a Jiffy Lube type of flush with the crud in the pan rolling through the system, but your approach elimintates that. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I mean if Castrol, SOPUS and P66 got their "universal" ATFs approved by Ford and GM for Dexron VI and Mercon V/LV(and ULV eventually), it shouldn't be too hard for them to pass Toyota or JASO testing. RAV4.3 Third Generation (2006-2012 Models), http://www.aftonchemical.com/Insight/KnowledgeCtr/Research_Trends/Documents/ATFspreads.pdf, https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...e-get-it-out-of-your-transmission-now.331521/, http://content.valvoline.com/pdf/maxlife_atf.pdf, https://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=51&pcid=7, https://www.amsoil.com/lit/databulletins/g3110.pdf, http://www.rav4world.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=836557, https://r56hs.com/2016/02/15/diaqueen-sae90-gear-oil-mz320345-oil-test/, https://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=115&pcid=7, http://www.kd5byb.net/Tundra/ATF WS MSDS1.pdf, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada, rav4world.com is an independent Toyota enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. Amsoil vs Mobil 1 vs motorcraft vs WS ATF Valvoline maxlife repairvehicle. What I won't do is wait 80k miles again though - "lifetime fill" is a "duration of warranty fill" or a short life. Everything seems to be working normally. MaxLife is synthetic providing some advantage regarding higher operating temperature. The reason I used a 'clear' plastic hose is because when you start the car, you can see when the oil starts turning red, when being pumped out of the torque converter. Drives fine. Go. The data is out there, it would be nice to see some independent information from Blackstone. Glad I did that flush since this must have been the first fluid change judging from the color. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Yikes! Now that I am a proud owner of a 3rd Gen RAV4 I have to say finally someone here is paying attention to doing a transmission flush via return line (KYOO). Learn about ATF from the first 2-Speed Toyoglide in 1959 to the latest AGA0E 10-Speed transmission in 2017. Replaced with Valvoline MaxLife Synthetic ATF. I did a flush using the return line on the weekend along with replacing the filter inside the pan. Some really good photo work there, thanks for posting! MaxLife will be certainly be a cheaper alternative than WS. do dealers still sell T-IV? to ashtony's general point, I'm not too crazy about Valvoline maxlife and its rating for both Toyota's regular ATF and WS. Since the last owner had done pan drop service in 2011, I decided only do drain and refill. Well I researched it and came to the conclusion that WS flashpoint is poor and does not tolerate heat. Not 'recommended' certified, as in Castrol paid the money got the product tested and have a certification by Aisin. So far it feels no different from the Toyota WS that was already in there. You asked by whom -- I answered. Hi kyoo, it's been ~6 months since you've done the tranny flush etc., how's it going these day? Valvoline MaxLife Multi-Vehicle ATF is a full synthetic automatic transmission fluid combining superior base oils and unique seal conditioners, long-life friction modifiers, special anti-wear agents and shear-stable viscosity improvers. I will say though I'd give it a week to get in all the nooks and crannies, as well as checking every day to make sure the fluid is topped off. I've done four drain and fills. Plenty of Subaru owners found out the hard way. Can't beat having … It also says certified right on the bottle of the product. It is suitable for most Holden, Hyundai, Toyota… I tend to think that it is closer to 5.8. I have 100,000 miles on WS and 100,000 miles on maxlife. It is formulated with premium base stocks, unique seal conditioners, long- life friction modifiers, special anti-wear additives, and shear stable viscosity modifiers, among other performance packages. hey hey! MaxLife™ Multi-Vehicle ATF : Product Catalog - Valvoline… I think found the MSDS for WS- to compare with. How's it feel since you replaced all the ATF? I was thinking of using Vavoline MAX LIFE ATF. The link to Arts? Blake the Castrol has not been updated since 2013. The Amsoil all good? In their product info sheet they state that it WILL NOT void vechele warranty and if you or your customer have any transmission issues while using it to please contact them. So Penrite it is. One particular formulation kept coming up as I read about what others used – Valvoline Max Life ATF: Note in the next photo you can see that Valvoline says this can replace Toyota T-IV as well – it’s not just guys on the Internet. They mentioned JWS 3324 the spec that is met, and Aisin the approver. Just talked to the rep it good for our vans that us WS ATF can Valvoline MAX Life ATF been aproved by Toyota!! Toyota WS ATF vs Valvoline MaxLife V8 2004: natevans65: 4th Gen T4Rs: 34: 08-25-2019 10:16 PM: Valvoline MaxLife 773775 Dex/Merc or Castrol 03521 Transmax Import Multi-Vehicle ATF: Recoil Rob: 3rd gen T4Rs: 18: 12-30-2014 06:31 AM: Valvoline MaxLife: iaonbb: 4th Gen T4Rs: 4: 06-02-2005 09:27 AM » Popular Tags: 3rd 4runner 4th 4wd 5th air area back battery black brake … Mixing Maxlife ATF with Toyota WS? I think it did take a few miles to "break in"/permeate the trans, but working very well since. Valvoline MaxLife Multi-Vehicle ATF is a full synthetic formulation with advanced additives to prevent the major causes of transmission breakdown and help extend transmission life. its sunday here. Jump to Latest Follow 41 - 60 of 67 Posts. With that said, I am still having some trouble here. That pumped fluid does drip on the 2 electric motors and I'm not sure if MaxLife is detrimental to the winding insulation. Post Reply. TBH, I shyed away from MaxLife in my parent's Lexus LS430 and my Prius - WS was cheaper for me(it helps to know someone at the dealership) but I'll probably use it next spill and fill in the LS but probably not in the Prius - there is ATF being pumped through the transaxle despite it being splash-lubricated. Discuss towing, modifications, and more. Poll: what'd you use in your WS-spec'd AT? The same spec that sold in bottles as Toyota Brand WS. Rav 4 World is the internet's largest Toyota Rav4 SUV and EV online forum community. How far apart should drain and fills be? Do those other vehicles spec the WS fluid? The first order from 'Toyota of North Miami Parts' was completely beat to hell, the Toyota box was wrapped in plastic to keep it together and the spouts were folded into the containers and many of them were leaking. '11 Toyota Rav4 3.5 V6 Limited AWD - Blizzard Pearl. One size fits all typically doesn't work out well, and it's not just about viscosity - lot of additives coming into play etc. The respective vehicle manufacturers have neither evaluated nor endorsed MaxLife Multi-Vehicle ATF in these applications." car shifts smoothly, zero issue, haven't really thought about it actually. Valvoline™ MaxLife™ Multi-Vehicle ATF is a full synthetic formulation with advanced additives to prevent the major causes of transmission breakdown and help extend transmission life. I did check Valvoline Maxlife ATF but the specs indicate viscosity is outside the specs of the Toyota WS. MaxLife also offers advantages as ATF, which is the more critical design application. Castrol Transmax Full Synthetic Multi-Vehicle Automatic Transmission Fluid is OEM certified by Aisin as meeting JWS 3324 specification. no problems. Its never been done and has130k. So far the transmission whine noise is quieter than before. I have seen 5.8 and 7.2. There is a gray area for Japanese ATF, a Toyota engineer said in a presentation at JASO that genuine parts ATF is best but a "superior-type ATF" is suitable and that spec is JASO M315 which all the "universals" are self-certified by the add pack suppliers and blenders to meet. Some interesting metal on the magnet. Well done! 1 … Go to page. MaxLife ™ Multi-Vehicle ATF is a full synthetic formulation with advanced additives to prevent the major causes of transmission breakdown and help extend transmission life. i'll probably go 30k on it at least, if not 50k+. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Valvoline vs. Amsoil have fans of each debating which of their two uncertified ATFs is 'safe' for a Toyota WS application. Replaced with Valvoline MaxLife Synthetic ATF. I'm actually flushing the corolla with red line soon, so i may chime in with that too. Maxlife ATF for Toyota WS. Nov 16, 2019 #141 Originally Posted by N Heat. Go. That is completely unlike Maxlife ATF that comes with the disclaimer: "it should be noted that MaxLife Multi-Vehicle ATF is not an OEM licensed product. I've been using Valvoline Maxlife in my 05 Tacoma. Developed to help prevent leaks, maximize transmission performance, reduce transmission wear, and maintain smooth shifting longer than conventional fluids. project farm like test for Maxlife vs toyota WS. Castrol Transmax Full Synthetic Multi-Vehicle ATF. I recommend doing a drain/fill at least twice to thoroughly get rid of the old fluid. I will see how it goes as I get more mileage. ….you swear on the Holy bible that AISIN T-IV is just rebadged MOBIL JWS 3309. curious on the horror stories - I'd have to imagine they didn't do something right if something's not working. Transmission 09G T-IV Toyota WS MaxLife ATF Trasmission 02E SLF Part number G-052-182-A2 Transmission 09L, 09E(2004-2005), 09E (2006 with 8 cylinder engine) SLF Part number G-055-005-A2 MaxLife ATF Transmission 09E (2006 with 12 cylinder engine) SLF Part number G-055-162-A6 Others AE MaxLife ATF 1995 Cabriolet 90 with 097 transmission AF2 DEXRON II MaxLife ATF, MERCON … They would not say if Toyota WS … Messages 13,195 Location Maricopa Arizona. Older 4 speed AW and JATCO transmissions get the blue bottle MaxLife, since they spec Type IV/Nissanmatic D, and anecdotally shifted better in my fleet. Im gonna switch over in my 4runner today. So there is a OEM certified, aftermarket transmission fluid availabe for Toyotas that specify type WS transmission fluid. I called them and they assured me it is compatable with T-lV and WS fluid. Valvoline ATF Recommended for ... MaxLife ATF, Transmission 09G T-IV Toyota WS Transmission 02E SLF Part number G-052-182-A2 Available from dealer Transmission 09D in Q7 (2007-10 with 4.2L), 0AT (2011 with 3.6L) T-IV Part number G-055-025-A2 MaxLife ATF, Import MV ATF Transmission 09E(2004-2005), 09E (2006-09 with 8 cylinder engine) SLF Part number G-055-005-A2 Transmission … I have always used the expensive Toyota trans fluid both T-lV and WS. That is OEM cerfification just like the example you gave of Aisin's own JWS 3324 product. Penrite ATF LV seems to be the only one that meets Toyota WS standards. Im gonna do a drain/pan drop and Im guessing i will get close to a gallon out. I just got off the phone with Castrol support. Cancel Unsubscribe. JavaScript is disabled. However, Castrol Transmax Full Synthetic Multi-Vehicle Automatic Transmission Fluid is OEM certified by Aisin as meeting JWS 3324 specificiation. Oh, just realized, yours is a V6, which would probably take a bit more. The benefit of doing this is a longer transmission life. Your approach to drop the pan, clean up that area, THEN do the flush seems very logical. I drove my car 100 miles after my first drain/fill and did it again. According to Wiki(not 100% reliable) some Suzuki Grand Vitaras had an Aisin tranny that was AKA the Toyota A750F, which is in my 4runner. Maxlife in 2012 Corolla, shifts the same as on WS. The respective vehicle manufacturers have neither evaluated nor endorsed MaxLife Multi-Vehicle ATF in these applications. Older 4 speed AW and JATCO transmissions get the blue bottle MaxLife, since they spec Type IV/Nissanmatic D, and anecdotally shifted better in my fleet. Jul 8, 2014 at 8:11 AM #1 #1. dewriffic16 [OP] Well-Known Member. Valvoline MaxLife™ ATF (Automatic Transmission Fluid) is the first fluid of its kind that is specifically formulated for higher mileage automatic transmissions. It's life in the past several years have been severe duty, high load, crazy off road conditions. Many Toyota owners have reported good results when substituting MaxLife for WS in their transmissions. You must log in or register to reply here. MaxLife Multi-VehicleATF is suitable for use in a broad range of ATF applications including most Ford, GM, Toyota & Honda models as well as Dex/Merc, Mercon LV and many more applications. So there is a OEM certified, aftermarket transmission fluid availabe for Toyotas that specify type WS transmission fluid. That should be sufficient? Going to try Amsoil ATF next time around once I hit 100k miles, which is a long while away, but I wouldn't mind sticking with the Maxlife. Also added a Magnefine inline ATF filter. Subscribe Subscribed Unsubscribe 12.9K. I use them on my other vehicles with factory WS filled A750F transmission. I know Aisin makes a lot of trannies for alot of vehicles an addition to Toyota. 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